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How is Greek Social Security type pension taxed for a US citizen and resident who earned this prior to becoming a US citizen?

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It is a taxable pension. 

From the IRS:  Pensions paid by Spain, its political subdivisions, or local authorities for services performed for Spain are exempt from U.S. tax unless the individual is both a citizen and resident of the United States.

Always check for the treaties when dealing with income from another country. Pensions are in Pub 901.

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 I agree with Charlotte's conclusion, although the rules for Spain aren't really relevant.

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Phoebe, I like to verify that what I know is true.

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....regardless of its relevance.  ;-)

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Charlotte is always relevant.  If Shorebird takes her advice he'll understand the mention of Spain. It is a good idea to also download the latest treaty document specific to the countries of any of your clients if they are resident or naturalized citizens.

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I don't know if she heard you since it was a post from over a year ago.

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Thank you all for your replies.  After looking at the treaty and not being able to decide, I finally went with the IRS employee's advice.  He told me 85% of this is taxable.  Correct?  Who knows?  I didn't find it in writing anywhere.

 

 

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Last one of these I had was Germany, and, yes, it was 85% taxable (as of about 3 years ago).

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Thank you.  It makes me feel better as, having not found anything in writing in this respect (did you?) I have been worried about it.  If the whole amount should have been taxable!

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