• Was this page helpful?
Intuit Blog
|
Support
GoPayment
|
Payroll
|
QuickBooks Online
|
QuickBooks
|
Website Services
Intuit
Sign In
Register
QuickBooks General Forum QuickBooks Payroll 3rd Party Apps that work with QuickBooks QuickBooks Accountant Edition QuickBooks Online for Accounting Professionals QuickBooks Enterprise Solutions QuickBooks Point of Sale
ProAdvisor Program & Certification
ProSeries DMS ProSeries Community
Lacerte DMS Lacerte Community
Intuit Tax Online Tax Research for Lacerte and ProSeries Tax Import for Lacerte and ProSeries Intuit Practice Management EasyACCT Intuit Statement Writer
Starting and Managing Your Practice Classifieds Intuit ProConnection Newsletter Intuit Academy Training Your Peers Recommend
  • QuickBooks & Payroll
  • ProAdvisors
  • Lacerte
  • ProSeries
  • Productivity Tools
  • Training & Resources
Leaderboard
Hide Advanced Search
 
All of these words
Any of these words
This exact phrase
None of these words
In this forum
With posts written by
With posts from
to
mm/dd/yy
mm/dd/yy
Show Advanced Search
Home   Help for Accountants   Tax - ProSeries Community   Live Community  
hide
04/19/2013 at 09:23AM PDT
HTML Generator Sample Page

Need to verify a charge from Intuit? You can now retrieve the last 90 days of your Intuit order history from the QuickBooks Support Site

We are working on making some changes to the forums, in an effort to make valuable information more accessible. If you have 10-15 minutes, we would love to get your input through this survey. 

1
38976
cCgo0ACUir4Ql5aczvtLbK
Subscribe RSS
    Next ›     Last »
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 11:21am PST
Viewed by asker 02/26/13 12:44pm PST

split mortgage interest

Can person A take the entire mortgage interest deduction if he pays 50% and person B pays 50%?

Both own the house. Both are listed on the mortgage. Person a is listed on the 1098.

Taking 50% each does not put either of them over the standard allowance.

Person B has a child and will claim HH.  Person A will benefit if he takes 100%.

The mortgage & all household bills are paid from a joint checking account they both contribute 50%.

IRS rule is not clear. But I think it's simular to a married couple filing seperate.

Solved!
Submit a reply to this question
Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
 Report Abuse
34 Replies
Charlotte256
Charlotte256
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 5652
Points earned: 15913
Accountant Community AllStar
Accountant Community AllStar
Advisory council of Accountant community power users.
Charlotte256
Charlotte256
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 5652
Points earned: 15913
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 11:47am PST
The solution

A deduction can only be taken for what a taxpayer both owed and paid. According to your question, each owner owed and paid half the total mortgage and taxes, so each can only deduct half the the total interest and taxes. If this results in neither having itemized deductions, you own calculations tell you that both must use the standard deduction.

When anyone doing nothing needs help, I will gladly help that person do nothing.
Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
11
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 12:00pm PST

Thanks Charlotte 256.

I said exactly that to my client. However, here boyfriend's CPA said he could claim the whole thing. So my client checked with another friend who is a tax preparer and he also said the boyfriend could claim the whole thing.  So, not liking my answer, she picked up all her paperwork and went somewhere else. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I want to make sure no one at H&R says "Who did that to you??"

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
0
Reply to this Answer
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
abctax55
abctax55
Questions asked: 31
Questions answered: 4054
Points earned: 11845
Accountant Community AllStar
Accountant Community AllStar
Advisory council of Accountant community power users.
abctax55
abctax55
Questions asked: 31
Questions answered: 4054
Points earned: 11845
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 11:48am PST

Who paid the mortgage payments?

Will Rogers has been quoted as saying, “The only difference between death and taxes is that death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets.”
Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 12:02pm PST

They both admit they paid 50%. But they put their money in a joint account and pay all the household bills.

 

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
0
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
abctax55
abctax55
Questions asked: 31
Questions answered: 4054
Points earned: 11845
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 1:30pm PST

But what is the ratio of the money contributed to the joint account?

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
TAXOH
TAXOH
Questions asked: 17
Questions answered: 4637
Points earned: 17872
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 1:34pm PST

abc - I was wondering the same thing.   Also, what if they had separate bank accounts and one paid the full mortgage but the loan was in both names? 

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
0
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
abctax55
abctax55
Questions asked: 31
Questions answered: 4054
Points earned: 11845
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 1:44pm PST

Sorta what I'm trying to get the OP to think about, especially for 2013 planning.  It's not as black/white as it may appear.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 4:07pm PST

I did do a lot of research. Pub 926 was vague at best. Most everything I found was supporting the position they can only take what they pay and what they are liable for. The only exception I found was if person A's interest was in jeopardy. For instance if person B wasn't paying and the property was going to be forclosed. Then A could pay more and get the deduction for what was paid.

I don't think the ratio of income should determine the split. It makes sence it should be what % of the house you own and what % of the motgage you owe.

 

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
0
Reply to this Answer
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
Frankly
Frankly
Questions asked: 12
Questions answered: 800
Points earned: 2003
Frankly
Frankly
Questions asked: 12
Questions answered: 800
Points earned: 2003
Contributor
02/09/13 1:19pm PST

Some preparers advise, I believe, that you "can claim" based on what you can get by IRS undetected, not what is legal or proper.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
7
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 4:12pm PST

I think so, Frankly. I offered my client printed material supporting my position. I challenged her to get printed material supporting the other positions.  I did that because the clients parents are also clients and I'm hoping I won't lose their business also because my position wasn't popular.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
0
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
VPController
VPController
Questions asked: 29
Questions answered: 2073
Points earned: 5353
Allstar
02/09/13 4:35pm PST

I agree with your interpretation so far. But what if A & B had a notarized written agreement saying B will take 100% of mortgage interest deduction. Will that make any difference? Just asking!

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
0
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 4:47pm PST

I wouldn't think so unless when the house was purchased and the mortgage taken it was a notarized contract that A would own 90% of the house & pay 90% of the mortgage. I don't think 100% would work because A would have made the purchase alone and this would be a non issue.

 

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
Reply to this Answer
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
TaxGuyBill
TaxGuyBill
Questions asked: 13
Questions answered: 456
Points earned: 1842
TaxGuyBill
TaxGuyBill
Questions asked: 13
Questions answered: 456
Points earned: 1842
Contributor
02/09/13 6:45pm PST

My first thought is contrary to everybody else -- sort of.

If it comes from a JOINT account, why not?  It could even be considered as 'gifts' and the one person could claim it all.  Again, this is NOT based on ANY research, just my first thought.

HOWEVER, I am unclear on your comment "Person B has a child and will claim HH.  Person A will benefit if he takes 100%."  Does this mean that it is Person A who wants to claim 100%?

If Person A claims 100%, then Person B probably would NOT have "paid more than half the cost of keeping up a home for the year", and therefore can NOT qualify for Head of Household.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
4
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
TAXOH
TAXOH
Questions asked: 17
Questions answered: 4637
Points earned: 17872
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 7:15pm PST

Without any research my thinking on this was like TakGuyBills when I read it.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
IRMN
IRMN
Questions asked: 98
Questions answered: 20988
Points earned: 69800
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 7:19pm PST

 Sorry, I'd like to help but I quit thinking after 7:00 pm PST on Saturdays.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
TAXOH
TAXOH
Questions asked: 17
Questions answered: 4637
Points earned: 17872
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 7:21pm PST

I should probably try that too.  Today I should have quit earlier than 7:00.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
IRMN
IRMN
Questions asked: 98
Questions answered: 20988
Points earned: 69800
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 7:25pm PST

 Actually, I stopped thinking at 7:00 am today but I didn't want to tell anybody.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 7:48pm PST

Hummmm.  I don't think person A could  claim the full amount even if B gifts the money. I think the deduction is based on ownership and liability. 

Person A wanted the whole deduction while person B wanted to file as HH. I agree that's inappropriate. That is why my client person B was unhappy.

I think it should use the same logic as married filing separate. If one person itemizes the other is compelled to itemize also. 

Thanks to everyone for participating in this discussion. I appreciate the opinions. Maybe IRMN can weigh in tomorrow. 

 

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
2
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
IRMN
IRMN
Questions asked: 98
Questions answered: 20988
Points earned: 69800
Accountant Community AllStar
02/09/13 8:03pm PST

 Ok, if you are going to make me think, I will.  If their incomes are about the same I would go with a 50/50 split.  If one has a significantly higher income I would split based on their respective share of income going into the joint checking account.  

Ok, now I really am done thinking for today.

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
1
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
LindaSue52
LindaSue52
Questions asked: 5
Questions answered: 13
Points earned: 20
New Member
02/09/13 8:30pm PST

 Thanks for the special appearance! 

Type of Abuse
Abusive behavior
 
Inaccurate information
 
Other (add details below)
 
Add Details
Cancel_sm Submit_sm
This helped me! Add 1 point.
2
Reply to this Answer
 Report Abuse
 
 
 
    Next ›     Last »
Submit a reply to this question
 
Subscribe RSS
Tags for this topic
    Help other users find this post by tagging it
Use commas to add multiple tags
Add tags
Latest Site Activity
Pause Feed
theafricanblonde
9 mins ago
theafricanblonde
posted
Starting Fresh with Reconci...
in: QuickBooks for Mac
Tabaar
15 mins ago
Tabaar
posted
Is it possible to authorize...
in: QuickBooks Enterprise Solut...
Tabaar
18 mins ago
Tabaar
posted
Is it possible to print vou...
in: QuickBooks Enterprise Solut...
YFSIndia
1 hr ago
YFSIndia
replied to
Inventory Management issues
in: Inventory
YFSIndia
1 hr ago
YFSIndia
replied to
Inventory - Average Cost Vs...
in: Inventory
Product Resources
QuickBooks Tax Products Payroll ProAdvisor Program Training and Certification Feedback Survey
Resources: Find Local ProAdvisor Tax Almanac Practice Resources
Support: QuickBooks Lacerte ProSeries EasyACCT
Community Home Help with Intuit Products Start & Grow Your Business Help for Accountants Small Business Blog Join us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter Watch us on YouTube Meet us on LinkedIn
About Intuit | Careers | Register Your QuickBooks | QuickBooks Affiliate Program | Privacy | Legal | Contact Us | Our Hosts
© 2013 Intuit, Inc. All rights reserved. Intuit and QuickBooks are registered trademarks of Intuit, Inc.
Terms and conditions, features, support, pricing and service options subject to change without notice.
TRUSTe - Privacy Standards and Principles
Intuit Websites - Create the perfect site
Intuit Small Business
QuickBooks Accounting Software
Small Business Grants
QuickBooks Online Accounting
Intuit Payroll Services
Intuit Credit Card Processing
Intuit Business Directory
Intuit GoPayment
Intuit Small Business Education
Intuit Small Business Blog
Love a Local Business