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Parent VS dependent: Scholarship and education credit

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I'm sorry if this is a dumb questions, but I've just been going around in circles about so many issues with the most difficult client I've ever had in my life, and now my brain hurts...

Anyways, I'm doing 2 tax returns: one for a parent and one for her dependent child who is a student in college.  Student received a scholarship in 2010 and paid some education cost (books, supplies, and tuition).

I think I should put 100% scholarship on student's return as income and claim the education costs on parent's return as AMerican Opp Credit.  (Student paid these costs of $300 but is dependent of parent.) 

Is this correct??

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The Scholarship and Educational Costs should be reported on the Parent's Return if the parent is claiming the student as a dependent, and should be input under the educational worksheet. When you set up the dependant chiled indicate on the worksheet for the dependent that there are educational costs

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The scholarship should only be taxable (to the dependent) if it was more than the qualifying expenses.

If $300 was paid for expenses over what the scholarship/grant paid for, then the parents would take a tuition credit.

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The scholarship and  Educational expenses for a dependent if claimed by the parent are entered on the educational worksheet on the parents return if child is claimed as dependent, under child's name as it shows dependents name and ssn information. So it would go on parents return if they claim the child and are taking the educational credit for the dependent

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And, sorry, not to ignore your comments, Mt Juliet... but I think the scholarship is taxable to dependent, though I cannot find anything definitive either way.  Pub 970 doesn't really go into it.

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Hi LeAnn:  Yes, the scholarship (of $2000) was more than the qualifying expenses of $300.

So, $2000 taxable to student and $300 credit to parents??  Just double checking...

 

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The solution

If you key in Amts Paid of X=$2,000 and Scholarships Received of $2,000 is will not make the Scholarships taxable unless the Scholarships exceed the Total Costs incurred which in most probability would be Amts Paid of $2,300 and scholarships received of $2000 into the worksheet.

Once again I have to recommend that if the parents are claiming the student as a dependent it be entered on their return in thy educational worksheet

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cool.  It works out better for the client also.

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colibri,

$2,000 of scholarship money and the dependent only had $300 of qualified expenses?

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Page 10: No Double Benefit Allowed. Last Item... You cannot claim a credit based on qualified education expenses paid with tax-free education assistance such as a scholarship, grant...

Page 5: Worksheet 1-1 for determining what portion of the scholarship is taxable.

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They should Zero each other out which is what I stated when you go to the ed worksheet if you enter $2,300 of amts paid and $2,000 of scholarships it will compute the credit based upon $300

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Sorry MJ, I might be having an off day. I am interpreting colibri as saying that the total expenses were only $300. I really could be wrong. I do agree with you if there is $2300 of total qualified expenses.

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Ok I was interpreting that the Total was $2,300 But if the Total was only $300, (I think she meant $300 out of pocket over and above the $2000) then you would be correct.

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Sorry, I was away from my desk for a while... but, yes, I meant $2000 total scholarship and $300 total expenses.  

So I got it now.  The net of $1700 (which PS calculates) will go on PARENT'S return.

 

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You need to know how much total tuition and expenses were.  If it was $2,300.00 then $2,000.00 was paid with scholarships and $300.00 out of pocket.  The $300.00 would be the amount used to calculate the credit.  W

Where are you coming up with $1700 from?

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Total tuition and expenses paid were only $300 in total.  $2000 was received as scholarship.  That equals $1700 taxable scholarship.

which as I understand (now) should go on the parent's return and not on the dependent student, right?

sorry for so much confusion!  :-/

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The Institution charged $2,300 of which the scholarship paid $2,000 is what we assumed

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Sorry.  So the true facts are $2000 scholarship, $300 of which went to tuition.  There is a remaining $1700.

No credit is allowed at all.  

The remaining $1700 is taxable.  The question now is: to whom (parent or dependent).

So, yes, my question has in essence changed and my original question was truly dumb.

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What happened to the $1700??

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LOL!  Nothing really.  The scholarship (issued by the school) was granted in 2010 but no money was actually paid to student.  It's just there available as she makes tuition payments.  So $2000 granted in 2010.  $300 used up.  $1700 available for 2011.

BUT, the total $2000 scholarship is reported on the 1098T for 2010.  That's why I'm assuming $2000 less $300 used up = $1700 taxable income for 2010.

 

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What does the 1098-T show for either Amounts Billed or Amounts Paid?

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