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PA SPECIAL DEPRECIATION

Is Lacerte automaticlally calculating PA special depreciation or do we need to code the asset somewhere?

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This is just a guess until Amy In Pa chimes in with a definitiive answer. The input shows 5 items down 1=computer software not eligible for Section 179(CA, PA only) would indicate Lacerte is going to do special depreciation automatically. Do one of the sample clients (restore from c:\lacerte]11tax\demodata or whatever your work drive is) and verify that is doing what you want.

Hmm??? Could I have been clearer when I asked that question? Did I mark the question solved after it was answered?
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I'm going to show my ignorance by saying I don't know what PA special depreciation is.  I do know that PA doesn't allow Section 179 beyond $25K, so if you took, say, $75K of 179 for Federal purposes, you could take only $25K for PA and you have $50K more of an asset to depreciate for PA.  But that's been going on for years.  And Lacerte has handled that very nicely.

So whatever the "special depreciation" is that Lisa mentioned, Lacerte probably does it automatically.

Back up before it's too late. For a professional answer, call Tech Support at 1-800-933-9999 (Lacerte)(other numbers ProSeries, QB, or TurboTax). I am a volunteer, not compensated or supported by Intuit.
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In the process of answering (to the best of my limited ability) someone else's question about "special depn" vs "bonus depn" it suddenly struck me what the original questioner might mean.  That IRS nonsense about giving you 50% in the first year, or 100% in the first year but having nothing to do with Section 179 -- maybe that's what "special" means.

Whatever it is, the general rule is, if IRS giveth, Governor Rendell and/or Governor Corbett and/or whoever went before them and whoever will come later in time -- taketh away.  I'm still amazed that PA finally stopped taxing, in 1998, the capital gain on your primary residence.  But in general, if it's good at the Federal level, forget it for PA because it won't work.

I'm not positive, by the way, if C corporations don't actually get the good of the Federal depreciation "goodies."  But I know for sure that non-corporate PA returns go by "non-Federal" rules.  I don't remember if the original question had to do with C-Corps or didn't specify what type of taxpayer it was.

I'm going to assume Lacerte knows what they're doing.  If the taxpayer is a C-Corp., and Lacerte puts nothing extra onto the return because of some fancy depreciation deal the US Gov't gave, then leave it alone, it's right.  On all other modules, the PA Lacerte program will certainly either do an add-back if there's a line for it, or show a completely separate PA dep'n schedule that follows PA's rules.  I can't remember the format, and I don't care, because (a) I know that Lacerte does it right in the few instances where I leave it to default to Federal rules and then see what happens on the PA return, (b) I have virtually no C-Corps as clients, and (c) I usually force the Federal "goodies" down to the level of state "baddies" anyway, just so my clients will have the same level of dep'n on both returns.

 

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Upon further research, I found out that 100% special depreciation allowance is only available to C Corps for PA and the regular decoupling rules still apply for PA for any individual or pass-through entity as in the past. Thank you.

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