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How to handle a contractor requesting a letter for donated services?

I have a small non-profit as a QuickBooks client who had some excavation and hauling work donated last year.  The contractor is requesting a letter for tax purposes for the donation.  As background, I'm a CPA, but not a tax expert.  The request makes me uncomfortable for a couple reasons:

1)  I know donated services aren't deductible, only out-of-pocket expenses incurred.  The contractor is requesting that the non-profit disclose a donated amount equal to what they would normally charge for that service.

2)  The amount they are requesting the letter state is approximately double what some of the other bids came in at.  These other bids were for the entire project (not just the excavating and hauling portion), but did break the bid down in to project stages, and gave a subtotal for each.

3)  Also, they recently increased the requested amount by $5,000, which really starts to make me uncomfortable.

4)  Finally, they are requesting that the receipt be made out to the family's foundation, rather than the company/individual who actually performed the work.  I'm pretty sure this is so they can meet the 5% distribution requirement.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Dan Schmidt, CPA
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Sure, they want you to write the letter. I would run away as fast as possible. Smell test comes to mind.

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07/30/10 1:21pm PDT

I suppose one could write a letter TO THE CONTRACTOR (not his family's foundation -- if he doesn't like it, tough!) saying something like "You donated services to the Small Non-Profit during 2009.  Most bids for the work quoted a price of X, if Small Non-Profit had chosen them to do the work.  If you wished for any reason to show a donation deduction of X, and offsetting income of X -- not that IRS would go along with this, anyway -- the amount you would show should be no greater than X.  If Small Non-Profit is required to show donated services on its statement, X is the amount that will be used."

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Since your records you should reflect the donation of the services as a "donation in kind" I see no problem giving him a letter for the amount originally agree upon, not a new amount. Your letter should say "for services donated in kind." No need to emphasize "services," but that's what is needed.

At a NP for whom I am a board member we recently had roofing done. The contractor donated the materials, and we paid him for his services. He got a charitable deduction, we saved a chunk of the total costs.

Unless the foundation did the work, or the foundation paid for the work to the contractor, you can only issue the letter to the contractor, not the foundation.

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AM, how I read #1 above it sounds to me like the contractor wants the letter amount to be for "amount equal to what they would normally charge for that service" which I assume he would have a profit percentage built in.  So wouldn't the letter amount would be more than just the out-of-pocket expenses?
 

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mojo's right - they don't get a donation equal to the full billing price on the job.  Sounds like you are dealing with some real doozies if on top of everything else they want the letter to go to the foundation.  I would just write a letter to the contractor detailing the services that they performed without any dollar amounts.  If they bugged me any more about it I would write a letter showing an amount equal to the lowest bid that was received and a 1099 to the company for the original amount that they wanted in the letter plus the $5000.

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Let's say the job cost $10,000, half in materials and half in services. If they do the entire job for free, then they get a donation of $5,000 for the materials. And the letter can say that the donation was $5,000 for materials and $5,000 of "in-kind services."

If the contractor was your client, and you saw this letter(which you should ask to see) then you know that the donation is limited to $5,000 only.

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Personally, I don't think I would want the contractor as a client so I don't think I will be looking at any letters.

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I agree with AM and the analysis of In Kind donation versus and this is the way I would approach it.

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