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where do I enter social security benefits received on form 1041, do you enter it on line 8 other income

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Try as I might, I'm having difficulty coming up with a situation in which SSA benefits would be payable to the estate or trust, rather than directly to the surviving spouse and/or kids. SSA is pretty good about getting back any post-death payments that may have inadvertently been made, so no IRD.

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I agree with Phoebe. Estates don't get SSA benefits; the check needs to be reissued, if not returned.

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This is something I have never seen, but I wondered if it might have consisted of a lump sum payment for prior years. My understanding is that no payment is allowed for the month of death and payments "for" a particular month are paid the following month. Any excess payments must be returned. Even so, I wonder if payments made under a prior year claim (which would have occurred before death) would not be subject to forfeiture as they relate to when the decedent was still alive. If anybody knows the answer to this I would love to know.

A form on the SSA website seems to indicate that amounts due to a deceased beneficiary can be paid to the legal representative of the estate: https://www.socialsecurity.gov...

Even so that would not necessarily mean it gets included. It seems to make more sense to have it included on the decedent's final tax return or the beneficiary's return if it does not have to be returned to the SSA.

If it is determined that it does get included as income for the estate (which I question) then I would think it would go on line 8 like you said.

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I should also point that that if this is a lump sum payment for prior years their is an election to have it taxed as if it were received over the periods involved. This will usually be beneficial to the taxpayer.

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If it's a lump-sum payment of a claim for prior years, wouldn't that cause it to become IRD?

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Yes, I believe it would Archie. I thank you for pointing out my error. I was incorrect when I suggested that any lump sum payment based on a prior year claim would likely be included in a different return other than the estate's. My mistake.

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