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Changing Structure, new file?

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I'm taking over a QB "business" file where the previous admin didn't track hours through a weekly pay stun in QB and manually entered them from the timesheet to the paycheck on payroll day. Obviously I want to change this and a few other ways that other things are done such as each job being entered as payroll items as opposed to Customer:Job's. Before I start doing it this way, I want to make sure that nothing will be messed up in the process, if I duplicate the file then none of the settings will be changed in the original when I change them in the new file, right?

Is this recommended, or would a better route be to start with a new file and just import Employees, Accounts, etc and then manually input hours and backdate pay checks to the first of the year?

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It never hurts to make a backup copy before you make set up changes.  New settings in the file will not change the backup copy.

I'm not sure if I have all the facts of your situation. I think you should continue using the old file if you can because although you can import the Employee, Vendor, Customer, Accounts and Items lists, you cannot import all the transactions. You would have to re-input transactions from January 1st (assuming a calendar tax year).

If the previous admin didn't use QuickBooks to track hours worked and you want to track hours in QB for the job information, then enter the data from the manual time sheets into QB timesheets. I don't understand why you would "backdate pay checks"; haven't they already been recorded in the QB file?

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 They have been paid for their total hours, therefor when I go to put their hours into QB it gives me a message telling me so, so I discontinued doing that thinking that it would duplicate the paychecks. Is this not so? Also, is there a way to create a default to where the hours from the timesheet aren't billable so that I don't have to uncheck it everytime?

With that said, my boss just wants to start fresh with a new file starting this year. I guess I'll have to manually enter all transactions if that's the only way.

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I think you are correct. I had thought that it was possible to just not send the hours to payroll. But now I see that once you've set it up to use the timesheets for payroll, it is not easy to switch back.

I can't help you with the billable check box either. If you turn off the preference that allows you to bill time and expenses, you won't be able to bill any of them. So you are stuck with unchecking the check box when you don't want to bill.

I suppose the software was purposely designed that way because the potential problems of forgetting to bill a customer for expenses or excluding some of an employee's hours from a paycheck wouldn't make up for the convenience of being able to change the default behavior of the program back and forth at will.

You'll have to forgive my imperfect knowledge. I'm answering questions as a way to learn more about the products. So thank you for helping me see some of the devilish details.

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 In the way that I am using it, I never will bill anyone for the hours worked. All of this is figured up and included into each contract bid. Where is the preference to turn off billing of the hours anyhow? Thanks a lot!

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This is from the Help file:

Only the QuickBooks Administrator can do this task.

1. Open the time and expenses preferences.

  1. Go to the Edit menu and click Preferences.

  2. In the Preferences window, click Time & Expenses in the list on the left.

  3. Click the Company Preferences tab.

2. For the Do You Track Time? option, click No.

3. Click OK.

Even when time tracking is off, QuickBooks still retains all time entries. To access your time entries again, turn time tracking back on.

You can still allocate payroll expenses to jobs if you care about job costing. You would select the job or jobs when you record the payroll check rather than from the time sheet.

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"such as each job being entered as payroll items "

You will not do this.

By using Timesheets, with the employees set to be paid from timesheets, you will see both the Service Item and the payroll item.

Service Item is job related.

Payroll item is Pay related.

You can turn on and off paying from timesheets, but for what you are awsking, just start doing it this way and stop putting data manually into the payroll function.

"I never will bill anyone for the hours worked"

Then in the timesheet, job track it and mark it Not Billable by removing the checkmark.

"But now I see that once you've set it up to use the timesheets for payroll, it is not easy to switch back. "

You simply change the employee Payroll & Compensation tab: there is a box to checkmark or uncheckmark. You can change it any time. This removes the Payroll Item column from timesheets and does not allow QB to transfer time entries to the paycheck details view.

"If you turn off the preference that allows you to bill time and expenses, you won't be able to bill any of them."

That is not what this preference controls. This preferences controls a Pop up that is a sort of helpful reminder, when doing Invoices. It does not affect payroll and there is no way to stop the Billable from coming up on a timesheet. Just tab into the column and hit the Spacebar to remove the checkmark, then tab around to the next line.

"Even when time tracking is off"

That is going to tell QB to SHOW or don't SHOW timesheets.

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I'm having trouble locating the employee Payroll & Compensation tab that has the check box you described. How do we get there?

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 Employees > Edit Employee then there is a drop down list. That's how you get to Payroll & Compensation, not at my QB machine to see about the check box.

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Edit the employee name, and look at the dropdown for "Change Tabs."

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Oh; sorry to post again; now that this is marked Solved we can no longer edit replies.

Don't forget to update your Employee Defaults. Set this to the settings you want always. Then each time you add a new employee, these settings are already created, too. Set the employee default to Transfer time to payroll.

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