Can you use qualifying relative (child 25 y/o no earnings) for EIC?
can you use qualifying relative (child 25 y/o no earnings) for EIC?
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02/04/12 9:02am PST
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02/04/12 9:09am PST
What do the rules say?
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02/04/12 11:07am PST
If he had any intention of looking it up himself, do you think he would have posted it here????
72.5 to go.
02/04/12 11:08am PST
I've decided to take Dusty's approach and ask questions of the questioner.
02/07/12 9:12am PST
With all the sources of information available for one to look up, why should we blindly answer questions? I notice you didn't.
http://community.intuit.com/posts/before-you-post-please-look-here-updated-on-242012
02/07/12 6:46am PST
The rules say a qualifying child can be taken. My question relates to a child who is over 25, lived in the father's (taxpayer) home all year and has no earnings for the year. This qualifies him as a 'qualifying relative' for purposes of taking him as a dependent - so the question is can the taxpayer use this person for EIC? In black and white this person is not a qualifying child - but he is technically a child (relationship test) who then can be claimed under the earnings exception...
02/07/12 6:52am PST
So, if I read your post correctly, the individual they are claiming (from a tax standpoint) is a Qualifying Relative and not a Qualifying Child. In my reading I do not see any exceptions for a Qualifying Relative who is actually your child.
Dusty
02/07/12 9:45am PST
assuming the 25 YEAR OLD is not disabled--you might want to check out the 25 YEAR OLD part
02/07/12 9:56am PST
I had this same question a few days ago. I've been a preparer for 35+ years, and the instructions are so confusing that I had to bring it to you all anyway. Too many of categories of dependents (or not), too many different credits, too many exceptions and exceptions to the exceptions. It's out of control.
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02/07/12 9:44am PST
If there were an exception, it would be in the instructions. If the son is totally and permanently disabled, read the special rules for that situation.
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02/07/12 12:39pm PST
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Thanks for the input folks. I have been preparing taxes for 15 years - mostly don't deal with EIC with my clients. But it sounds like some people need to relax a bit. I know the rules without reading front to back - I thought this was a professional forum to go to to put out questions where the answers are not clear. I did re-read the entire section prior to posting and the language seemed unclear. logic would then lend a person to seek out any similar quesitons of thier peers just to see if anyone ventured down this road and found a black and white answer. I guess this forum isn't really what I thought it was but thanks for the time for those replys. I know you are all busy like me.
If you use Proseries like me - a 25 YO dependent with a code of O (other dependent) and then a code L(lived with taxpayer for 12 months) the program calculates the EIC credit. So according to the program, the credit is allowable. But I don't rely on the program to always tell me the rules. Just an FYI - and relax - take a breath...
02/07/12 2:46pm PST
You do have to realize we get a lot of google and TT people that end up here by mistake. If you would have mentioned that you were a PS user, it probably would have been a set of answers from them. The TT questions that end up here and in the Lacerte forum tend to rub people here the wrong way.
02/07/12 3:11pm PST
It seems so easy for one to just ignore inquiries that appear to not meet the standard. It is really depressing to see how this forum so often hammers on new folks, for no apparent reason other than to inflict a little pain and make them regret they wasted their time coming here. Can we try to be a little more charitable, or tolerant?
02/07/12 3:16pm PST
If it was login controlled so that not every Tom [removed] and Harry could end up here ( like TTB and TA), then the answers here would be different. But the powers that be don't want to do that. Don't blame the volunteers.
02/07/12 3:19pm PST
Edward, when you are done with your soap box, why don't you hang around and answer a few questions. It is a professional forum, but that would tend to mean that folks ask and answer questions, rather than just ask. It really wouldn't be very productive if everybody just asks questions but no one answers. Ok, so I'm getting off my soap box now and I'm going to relax for a while.
02/07/12 3:32pm PST
And not to beleaguer a point, but folks should try looking things up. There are a lot of resources out there beside free advice from people they don't know.
02/07/12 3:32pm PST
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